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R1 GOOD
22-05-2006, 04:04 PM
The missus has just been told her ZMC needs new brake pads - at over £800...Seems a bit steep even by Beamer standards.Can anyone recommend good alternative pads please?
p 5ary
22-05-2006, 04:08 PM
are they ceramic or something :lol: , my ebc are great (when warm)
Judge
22-05-2006, 04:11 PM
I would go with either EBC Red stuff or Ferodo DS Performance pads
Trundler
22-05-2006, 04:15 PM
Take it to an independant - I have just had my pads replaced:
£98 for the fronts and £50 ish (i cannot remember :oops: ) for the rears.
This was done at Munich Legends (see my post in 'Good/Bad Dealer' section for contact details).

Otherwise Ferrodo's DS range are supposed to be very good. I think that Maahny sells them (Fronts at about £170 if I remember rightly.)
See the 'XSPerformance' section.
maahny
22-05-2006, 04:19 PM
You can have a whole set (front and rear) Ferrodo DS2500's for £167.41 plus £11 postage. They are a good performance pad and will perform better than BMW OEM pads. A good indy should not charge you a lot to change them.


Ferrodo pads...

http://www.xsperformance.co.uk/e30zone/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=93&products_id=711&osCsid=983cbb67667676024cf6e058576c6d1a
Trundler
22-05-2006, 04:27 PM
I remembered wrongly!! :oops: :D
BEN
22-05-2006, 04:36 PM
for £800 it must be discs too!
exdos
22-05-2006, 04:43 PM
for £800 it must be discs too!

And a large amount of mark up on top!
gsi
22-05-2006, 05:01 PM
I agree, Rear discs aren't cheap, Fronts aren't either (but cheaper than rears :? ) + Pads from BMW (which aren't bad, but better can be had for the money, I'm on Mintex) + 2 hours of Labour (way over, but likely) and I can see how they could almost get to £800!

Bloody rip off. Local garage can do it all for you. All you need are the parts and more than likely the discs will last a fair bit longer, they always err on the side of caution and swap them out early.
Hoolio
22-05-2006, 05:27 PM
I got my discs and pads changed all round at an indy about a year ago and the whole lot only cost £450. All genuine BMW parts etc. £800 and they're having a laugh!
c_w
22-05-2006, 08:45 PM
The front floating discs are about £90-£95 each from BMW. Not sure why the rears would be cheaper as they are a standard vented disc.
R1 GOOD
22-05-2006, 09:01 PM
When the missus went to pick her MC up the price had dropped to £695 but they would match anyone else's quote. I asked her to show me the quote and she produced a little BMW card with "Brakes £695" on it. I'm phoning the service manager on Wednesday.
I had 2 piece front discs fitted to my Evo with braided hoses all round and a hefty master cylinder brace and the performance with DS2500 pads is lovely, but she won't have anything apart fro BMW parts on her car and she won't let me modify it at all. Big sigh!
flyingsaucer
22-05-2006, 09:34 PM
Good timing lads!!

Inspection II on Wednesday and I've a sneaking suspicion that I'm going to get a phone call from the stealers suggesting I have the same done but my response is now going to be totally different to what I was originally going to give having read the above. Once again, cheers for the advice.

Have been thinking about using Munich Legends unless anyone knows a good Indy that's closer to Brighton?
Trundler
23-05-2006, 11:54 AM
Munich Legends have got to be worth the 60 mile round trip?
It's about 140 mile round trip for me, and I will continue to use them for the inspections.
FYI - ML's labour rate is £55 p/hour.
Broccers
23-05-2006, 02:33 PM
Re changing pads via a local garage. I had the misfortune of getting my rears replaced by a right set of monkeys who ruined the wire which let s you know the brake wear - new wires were as much as it was to replace the pads.
BEN
23-05-2006, 03:30 PM
the wire is only about £10
Col
23-05-2006, 06:23 PM
He's right the wear sensor is only about £10, i recenlty bought one for the front when I overhauled the brakes all round.
Broccers
24-05-2006, 12:19 AM
Not from Sytner BMW when asked to put it right ;) 20 fitted.

My point was to consider this part when changing your pads as no-on seems to have mentioned it.
c_w
24-05-2006, 10:25 AM
I had a quote for £12 from my local motor factors who are usually quite cheap.

You can re-use them if the brake pad warning light hasn't come on. If the pads wearr down enough to activate the sensor (ie scraping the contacts) so that the red warning light comes on then you need a new sensor.
R1 GOOD
24-05-2006, 10:26 PM
£693 incl VAT for discs,pads,wear indicators and any other incidental expenses and they'll recharge the aircon 1/2 price. Her indoors won't deviate from BMW standard spec at all so that's the best I can do.
They are going to try and find a Z4M demo and a V10 M5 demo for us to play with so that should be fun.
Trundler
25-05-2006, 11:19 AM
What about using BM parts, but pay indy labour rates ... ?
You then get the best of both worlds; comfort in OEM parts, and a cash saving + specialist knowledge of a good indy?

Though the lure of the Z4M & the M5 sound very appealing!!! :)
maahny
25-05-2006, 11:49 AM
The M5 is an awesome car! Had a good drive in one of these at the begining of April. Our fun stopped when the gear box packed in though. :oops:
R1 GOOD
25-05-2006, 05:40 PM
What about using BM parts, but pay indy labour rates ... ?
You then get the best of both worlds; comfort in OEM parts, and a cash saving + specialist knowledge of a good indy?

Though the lure of the Z4M & the M5 sound very appealing!!! :)

The missus doesn't really want to go anywhere else. The work is always faultless and the car comes back fully valeted. Just costs a bit!