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exdos
20-06-2006, 01:50 PM
I had my test drive of the Z4 MC yesterday. A lovely Imola Red Z4 MC was waiting by the dealer's front door.

http://www.z3mcoupe.com/photopost/data//500/53FrontZ4MC.jpg
http://www.z3mcoupe.com/photopost/data//500/53sideZ4MC.jpg

Although this was the first Z4 MC I've ever seen in the metal, it looked like a design, which was quite familiar, and it didn't quite make me feel "Wow! I must have it", which is what I'd hoped I would feel. Perhaps that's because in photographs the Z4 MC very much reminds me of the Triumph GT6 MkII that I once owned, or, is it a touch of the Chrysler Crossfire about it?

http://www.z3mcoupe.com/photopost/data//500/53Rear_Z4_MC.jpg

Before I had my test drive I had a look over the Z4 MC, which had a black leather interior with a brushed aluminium trim, and then went into the dealers and looked over the Z4 3.0 Coupe in Montego Blue (Dark blue metallic) on display.

http://www.z3mcoupe.com/photopost/data//500/53InteriorZ4MC.jpg
Edited Comment: This photo just doesn't give enough justice to how tacky this interior looks. Trust me, it's bad :!:

I don't know whether I'm starting to feel my age, but this car had pale cream leather upholstery with a mahogany panel dash, and to me, it looked as though the car was twice as expensive with twice the build-quality as the Z4 MC I was about to drive.

http://www.z3mcoupe.com/photopost/data//500/53Interior_Coupe.jpg

The salesman gave me a passenger ride demonstration of how the car handles for about 10 miles, which I could have done without before he let me drive back to the garage. He admitted that he was having a bit of trouble with engaging the clutch in 1st gear without the car kangarooing, and he had this problem each time he pulled away. As a passenger, the car was comfortable, but I do NOT like the brushed aluminium fascia on the dashboard in front of the passenger seat - it really does look cheap and tacky. I'd have to choose an alternative, such as a contrasting coloured panel of leather, which is an optional extra.

When it was my turn to take the wheel, I found the driving position to be comfortable and not much different to the Z3 MC (referred to as MC from now). The steering wheel is a little chunkier than the MC's and it has the buttons for the sound system on the horizontal bar. The first time I engaged the clutch, I also found that the car had a tendency to kangaroo, but I also experienced this with my MC when I first got it, so from then on I knew how to avoid this.

The engine in the Z4 MC is the same as my S54 MC, so the engine basically delivered what I expected. However, since it has a 6-speed box, I found that the gear changes were coming at inappropriate intervals to what I'm used to. I must admit that I really like the long-legged nature of the 5-speed gearbox of the MC, and although I only had a relatively short trial of the Z4 MC, I'd have to say that I prefer the MC's gearbox. One of my previous cars had a close ratio 6-speed box and my wife's car also has a 6-speed box, so I am familiar with driving with both 5 and 6 speed boxes.

All the press reports of the Z4 MC that I've read so far, have been saying how bloody uncompromising and "hardcore" the Z4 MC is, so I didn't quite know what to expect. I found the road holding was indeed excellent and is definitely better than the OEM MC and the ride quality is on the firmish side but certainly not jarring in any way. For me, the Achilles’ Heel of the MC is it's suspension, and I've replaced it with KW Variant 3, H&R ARBs and added a strut-brace and butt-strut and which I have set up to handle like a go-kart. I can therefore state as fact that the Z4 MC's handling falls well short of what BMW could have done with the Z4 MC, had they chosen to give it adjustable suspension. For me, they've spoilt the ship for a ha'pporth of tar, by not doing this. I found that it was quite easy to get the Z4 MC to lose its poise over each corner, particularly on hard braking in anything but a straight line; I find this disappointing that the designers have failed to completely contain the performance in this way. Instead of testing their cars around Nurburgring and other tracks, BMW would do well to bring its prototypes on to some ordinary English roads to really put them through their paces because they'd soon see the inadequacies in handling. The brakes are very good though. I think the salesman was relieved that I'd managed to get both him and the car back to base without a scratch on both.

http://www.z3mcoupe.com/photopost/data//500/53Wheel_Z4MC.jpg

The general feel of Z4 MC is of a much more modern design and more of a bigger car like the BMW 3 series, whereas, to me, the MC feels a more nimble and agile car, especially with all my handling mods. The Z4 MC does come with a strut-brace and butt strut as part of the design though and you can feel the stiffness of the design. I had a look under the car and I was surprised to see that it did not have a flat underfloor tray as does the lesser speced Z4 roadsters, so the underside of the Z4 MC has all the underfloor clutter like the MC.

The Z4 MC comes in some nice paint colours and upholstery choices, and I think if you were to buy one from new, you'd want to come up with interesting colour combos of leather interiors to contrast with the body colour to add some vibrancy to the car. The basic car costs £41,600 to put it on the road, but to add a few extras, such as hi-fi sound system, sat nav and even heated seats will cost more. There are various different leather upholstery choices which are all pretty expensive, so to spec the car to your own requirements might eventually make the car cost nearer to £50k.

The rear luggage compartment of the Z4 Coupe has a similar floor area to the MC, but in the case of the Z4 MC there is a large box shape occupying the floor immediately behind the driver's seat. This apparently houses the battery and the tool kit, etc. but it unfortunately reduces the rear luggage compartment floor area and makes it a most awkward shape.

http://www.z3mcoupe.com/photopost/data//500/53Luggage.jpg

Why BMW had to do this defeats me, because under the bonnet there would be sufficient room to fit a battery, because unlike the MC, where the engine bay appears full to bursting, the S54 engine under the Z4 MC’s bonnet seems to appear much smaller.

http://www.z3mcoupe.com/photopost/data//500/53Engine.jpg

The sloping rear door also reduces the vertical height of the luggage compartment, which restricts what you can get in the back. I wonder if a set of golf clubs would fit in there, if they don't, then I expect that the potential sales of the Z4 MC will be automatically reduced since the "Golf Club Set" would not entertain such a car. Likewise, I doubt if I could fit the luggage for my wife and I to go away for a week and also take our 2 smallish dogs, as we often do with the MC.

Do I like it? Yes. Will I buy one? Possibly, but in a few years time as a highly specced low mileage used car. Hopefully, BMW will revise the Z4 MC and produce a version with the V8 lump. I'd also want an adjustable suspension upgrade on the Z4 MC and until any aftermarket suspension companies produce this, then I think I'd hold off buying.

Would I swap it for my MC? NO WAY :!: I'm afraid that the Z4 MC just lacks the odd-ball character which the MC has. On my way back home, I drove through a town centre where as often is the case, people stopped to look at my MC waiting at traffic lights - I doubt if the Z4 MC has that same WTFIT head-turning effect, because it looks just too perfectly designed with no idiosyncrasies.

p 5ary
20-06-2006, 01:56 PM
excellent write up exdos, the tool kit seems a bit of an afterthought!! chrysler crossfire, o dear thats me off them now lol

the front 45 degress angle photo you have looks well i must admit!

David1975
20-06-2006, 02:05 PM
nice write up Exdos.....thanks

I have not driven or even seen one in the flesh but from your photo's and others that i have seen, i agree completely about it not looking as outlandish as the MC (proper one). To me, this is a big downer as its the looks that appeal to me probably more than the power/drive of the MC. However this design may appeal to a wider market rather than just us "hardcore MC fans".

Having said that, it does look good, better than most modern designs. Maybe I'll try and blag a testdrive from my local Stealers.

Keep up the good work

Dave

flyingsaucer
20-06-2006, 02:11 PM
Excellent report Exdos. Thanks for doing that.

I think most of those who use this forum are all so besotted by there own MC's (rightly so) that they will also not be (really) tempted by this until it has been driven out of the show room a lts lost a considerable chunk of it's value. The Z4 MC might just rpove to be fairly rare as few are mas enough to fork out £50K for a well specced BMW 2 seater which will make picking up a second hand one in the future interesting.

Anyone out there who wants to spec up a blue one with cream leather interior with all the toys simliar to that on the billboards about town at the moment? As i'll happily snap your arm off in 3 years time once depreciation well and truly set in and levelled off........

Great pics.....

Manic
20-06-2006, 03:05 PM
Great report, Exdos. Thank you.

If age is catching up to you, then it is catching up to me too because I agree that the cream interior of the 3.0L looks a lot better than the M (in your pictures).

50k seems like far too much to drop on a fully spec'ed Z4MC. If I get one, then I'm also going to wait for a two-year-old model.

Perhaps the battery has been placed in the boot because BMW have kept their options open in terms of the V8. Yes, they are denying that it will be fitted to the Z4M, but who would buy one if they knew the V8 was coming? And there is no way that they would launch it in the Z4M when it will get far more attention in the upcoming M3.

PhilT
20-06-2006, 06:05 PM
yep, great write-up exdos - looking forward to my intro the the newby on Saturday now :D

I suspect the reason the battery and toolkit are in the boot is more to do with weight distribution than anything. Makes the boot a lot less useable though from the looks of it.

The cream interior looks excellent - I especially like the cotton wool drivers side carpet :wink: :lol:

PhilT
25-06-2006, 03:14 PM
Had my preview/test drive yesterday so here are my thoughts.

When I arrived they had to go get the car out as it was locked away - apparently they are keeping the M version out of sight as much as possible so they don't get every Tom Dick & Harry wanting a test drive. When I went outside I was greeted by the saleswoman grinning from ear to ear having only driven it a few hunder yards. The car was in Black Sapphire and to be honest didn't look all that special. The interior was mainly black (no brushed aluminium thank god) with Light Sepang Bronze seats. I have to say it was a little oppressive (exdos - yours must have been worse all in black!) and felt quite claustrophobic with the low roofline. It felt nowhere near as room as my current MC.

Had about 45 minutes driving the car straight from the dealer so no nannying at all which was quite good :D . My first real impression was that it sounded very much like my MC, but then I put my foot down a bit and changed my mind completely - the car sounds awesome, so much more throaty than the Z3MC. No need for a Pro-Speed zorst here me-thinks.

The car feels so much more modern that the MC (which it would I guess) and also feels bigger and less go-kart like on the outside as the bonnet is longer and feels wider. Inside it feels smaller adn the fast-back styling means the view out of the rear view mirror is like looking through a letterbox.

I would agree with a lot of what exdos has already said, although I didn't find it kangerooing at all. The six speed gearbox is a bit notchy and I thought it removed the punch in the back surge you get in the MC - it just doesn't seem to come, just as you'd be expecting it tin the MC you change cogs in the Z4. In saying that it certainly feels quick enough and I thought it handled pretty good but then my MC has stock suspension.

Would I buy one - unlike exdos yes I think I would though I'd spec a different colour interior and exterior. After settle on keeping my MC I know find myself seriously considering changing - the MC feels a little tired after driveing the new kid. I also drove a mates Carrera 4 cabriolet yesterday and am in a dilemma about which I'd rather spend £45k on - a new Z4MC or a couple of years old Porker.

Broccers
26-06-2006, 11:19 AM
Interesting comments about the interior. I guess it is the same as the Z4M I drove a while ago and I couldn't get over how tacky the glove box was - flimsy and cheap.

I'm also appalled at the lack of rear space in the new car from Exdos photos. What was a useful space has been ruined. Currently we can get in a very large suitcases and a set of clubs no worries - I can't see that being possible with the latest car.

Will be good to read everyone elses experiences.

PhilT
26-06-2006, 11:44 AM
The bootspace is better in the 3.0, it doesn't have the big hump on the drivers side - guess they utilise the space where the exhausts go

coupe fan
26-06-2006, 11:30 PM
Great writeup exdos,
I hate the front and the side and the back and the boot and the interior. Has as much character as a jap sportscar i.e. none.

Plus points - 6 speed box, stiffer suspension(?), strut brace, butt strutt and reduced steering wheel turn.

Could be partially saved with a V8 which would give them the chance to do the mods they have missed out on with this model.

AJL
08-11-2006, 02:43 PM
While in the dealers today with my car (clearly in view of the sales man) i saw the Z4M coupe and asked for a test drive, now i maybe 24 years old and not in my suit but i got the return of "you can only drive it if you are seriously interested in buying it!" How would i know if i was interested without driving it!

I was so disgusted by this response that i had a few choice words and left! :evil:

So i can only comment on looks which i think are very tame compared to the Z3M and could easily be mistaked for a normal Z4 from the front!

BEN
08-11-2006, 02:46 PM
While in the dealers today with my car (clearly in view of the sales man) i saw the Z4M coupe and asked for a test drive, now i maybe 24 years old and not in my suit but i got the return of "you can only drive it if you are seriously interested in buying it!" How would i know if i was interested without driving it!

I was so disgusted by this response that i had a few choice words and left! :evil:

So i can only comment on looks which i think are very tame compared to the Z3M and could easily be mistaked for a normal Z4 from the front!

you mush be joking!
where the fuck was this?

my dealer bends over backwards, even bent the rules to let me drive the Z4MR, im 23 and your not aloud to drive them till 25!

AJL
08-11-2006, 03:04 PM
This was as Synters High Wycombe which uptill now have been good. I could not believe it!

Fair enough if i turned up in a banger but i have the predecessor so surely the target market for the new coupe!

He even went on to say it cost us money Sir and if you just want to compare it to the Z3M its not on! Tw#t

BEN
08-11-2006, 03:26 PM
This was as Synters High Wycombe which uptill now have been good. I could not believe it!

Fair enough if i turned up in a banger but i have the predecessor so surely the target market for the new coupe!

He even went on to say it cost us money Sir and if you just want to compare it to the Z3M its not on! Tw#t

come up to colchester mate!
he said when i get the Z3MC he will go out with me to do back to back tests!
and when i did test drive the MR i pulled up in my corsa which is a real banger!!!!!

ICU88R
09-11-2006, 01:08 PM
This was as Synters High Wycombe which uptill now have been good. I could not believe it!

Fair enough if i turned up in a banger but i have the predecessor so surely the target market for the new coupe!

He even went on to say it cost us money Sir and if you just want to compare it to the Z3M its not on! Tw#t

I see dickhead used car sales types exists in every continent. SO WHAT if you wanted to compare new with old. It's not HIS car you were going to depreciate. Certainly not HIS tyres that you were going to shred. However, it is his name & his dealer that you will remember forever. I hope you spoke with the dealer principle, so the twerp can get the ass & sell BMXs rather than BMWs