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maahny
17-09-2007, 02:01 PM
I think its about time I organised a Rolling Road day for the forum at our place now everything is set up. We are based in Luton, Bedfordshire about 2 miles from J11 of the M1.

If we can get 10 cars I can do the dyno runs for £40 inc VAT each and get some magazine coverage.

This will be taking place on 20 October 2007 from 10am onwwards.

1. Maahny
2. Chris - Most powerful S50 ;) with the gayest owner
3. Rags
4. Trundler - early slot required

Jonmurgie
17-09-2007, 02:08 PM
1. Maahny
2. Jonmurgie

Greenbat
17-09-2007, 03:04 PM
If its 30th of September or the 2nd of October then I'm in as I am down south.
Greenbat

Rags
17-09-2007, 10:21 PM
Anytime after 30th Sept and I am in, you knew this anyway.

manty
18-09-2007, 12:42 AM
Can your rolling road do the S54s?

If so, i'm in :-)

maahny
18-09-2007, 10:39 AM
Of course we can do s54's. We have had both Z3M and Z4M variants on the rollers.

Rags
18-09-2007, 03:38 PM
1. Maahny
2. Jonmurgie
3. Rags
4. Manty

Rigor
19-09-2007, 03:50 PM
Im up for it,but i am abroad on the 13/14 of October.Let me know when your planning it.Regards Rigor.

Lee
19-09-2007, 05:51 PM
its about time i made a visit, can not do last weekend in Oct however and nor can you Imran (my stag do)

1.Maahny
2. Jonmurgie
3. Rags
4. Manty
5. Lee

Jonmurgie
19-09-2007, 09:38 PM
its about time i made a visit, can not do last weekend in Oct however and nor can you Imran (my stag do)


Good point, I can't do that last weekend in October either as am away that week... though I'm not on your Stag do :lol:

BEN
19-09-2007, 10:18 PM
1.Maahny
2. Jonmurgie
3. Rags
4. Manty
5. Lee
6. Ben

We will see if it pulls anymore with the colder weather, also we can put the standard map back on and see what she runs!

c_w
19-09-2007, 10:30 PM
Ben, is your new engine in now!?

BEN
20-09-2007, 09:51 AM
Ben, is your new engine in now!?

no im bringing the fabia

Chris
20-09-2007, 10:58 AM
Will have just had my inspection 2 done, so car should be in perfect order, yummy!

1.Maahny
2. Jonmurgie
3. Rags
4. Manty
5. Lee
6. Ben
7. Chris

mags
21-09-2007, 12:51 PM
Are you looking at a weekday or weekend? I can do a Weekend but not a weekday

Mags

maahny
21-09-2007, 01:20 PM
It will be a weekend. We have a Z4 one organised on 20/10 so depending on numbers we may combine the two.

ragerover
23-09-2007, 06:45 PM
Will have just had my inspection 2 done, so car should be in perfect order, yummy!

1.Maahny
2. Jonmurgie
3. Rags
4. Manty
5. Lee
6. Ben
7. Chris
8. ragerover 90 % i should be there fingers x ed dependant on work

maahny
01-10-2007, 12:49 PM
We are looking at doing this on Saturday 20 October as a joint event with zed-cars forum. Who is still in?

Chris
03-10-2007, 10:52 AM
20th is fine for me, so i'll start a new list...

1. Chris - Most powerful S50 ;)

Rags
03-10-2007, 11:53 AM
1. Chris - Most powerful S50 ;)
2. Rags

Trundler
05-10-2007, 01:06 PM
1. Chris - Most powerful S50 ;)
2. Rags
3. Trundler

though it depends on the time as i have a appt @ about 5pm that i cannot get out of.

Chris
16-10-2007, 11:23 AM
Seems to have gone a bit quiet, is this still on?

maahny
16-10-2007, 11:38 AM
Yes - there are about 13 cars coming from zed-cars.eu forum.

Chris
16-10-2007, 11:40 AM
Good stuff, i am really up for this, but would be good to see some more M Coupes there!!!

BEN
16-10-2007, 03:25 PM
i have just blown the Skoda up but should be there too!

exdos
16-10-2007, 06:24 PM
i have just blown the Skoda up but should be there too!
Ben,

Have you ever thought just a little mechanical sympathy will save you ££££££s ?

Lee
16-10-2007, 06:39 PM
Ben,

Have you ever thought just a little mechanical sympathy will save you ££££££s ?

I think he has mechanical sympathy after the event, IE when its destroyed and he feels guilty

Chris
16-10-2007, 10:12 PM
Lee is the Porker going on saturday? I mean the car not you btw ;)

Lee
16-10-2007, 10:59 PM
Lee is the Porker going on saturday? I mean the car not you btw ;)

doubt it Chris, I have www.supercardetailing.com coming round to work on the car.

I am not really that bothered about putting her on the rollers, It can wait untill I have her remapped.

BEN
16-10-2007, 11:06 PM
Ben,

Have you ever thought just a little mechanical sympathy will save you ££££££s ?

its under warrenty, so its not costing me anything, result!

BEN
16-10-2007, 11:06 PM
also i think im out as i have a remap booked in for saturday now!

maahny
17-10-2007, 08:06 PM
Shame - I was looking forward to seeing you ride the bike on the dyno to see how much power you are pushing!

BEN
17-10-2007, 09:05 PM
Shame - I was looking forward to seeing you ride the bike on the dyno to see how much power you are pushing!

im getting a hire car, so i might still pop up!
we can play around with the airbox, see if we can get some extra power by taking out the air filter!

maahny
17-10-2007, 09:10 PM
im getting a hire car, so i might still pop up!
we can play around with the airbox, see if we can get some extra power by taking out the air filter!

As long as you can supply the electricity to power the fan thats all good with me.

exdos
17-10-2007, 09:14 PM
we can play around with the airbox, see if we can get some extra power by taking out the air filter!

I can hear the bang already :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

BEN
17-10-2007, 09:20 PM
As long as you can supply the electricity to power the fan thats all good with me.

ill use your bike generator you have Sal on all day you tight arse!

BEN
17-10-2007, 09:22 PM
I can hear the bang already :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

the Ben car rental mod here we come!

chippy
17-10-2007, 09:33 PM
I will try and make pop over for an hour or so in the afternoon to catch up with a few people.

What time is this going on till?

maahny
17-10-2007, 10:19 PM
ill use your bike generator you have Sal on all day you tight arse!

Well he does need a break. Thanks for agreeing Ben. Make sure you have your Weatabix and try not to blow the engine up before you get here.

Chippy - we have quite a few cars from the zed-car forum so it will be on for he majority of the day.

Chris
19-10-2007, 12:49 PM
Imran, i aim to get there for about 11am tomorrow, so any chance of an early-ish slot aswell? Might as well set the bench mark nice and early lol!

Rags
19-10-2007, 12:51 PM
I unfortunately cannot make this now as my Mcoupe is in Sussex and I am not!

:iamwithstupid:

Chris
19-10-2007, 12:57 PM
I unfortunately cannot make this now as my Mcoupe is in Sussex and I am not!

:iamwithstupid:

Homo, stop leaving your car in stupid places!

Rags
19-10-2007, 03:57 PM
ha ha, its in my parents garage cos I just moved house!

Nowhere to keep it ya see

M5Pilot
19-10-2007, 06:11 PM
How can you not turn up Rags!

Bring the E36 instead :)

BEN
19-10-2007, 06:31 PM
i will be there with my wonderful 1.8 Astra SRI hire car!
let the intake mods begin!

BEN
20-10-2007, 09:19 PM
How did Chris's car get on, im expecting awesome results from "the most powerful standard coupe"?!

Chris
21-10-2007, 01:00 PM
How did Chris's car get on, im expecting awesome results from "the most powerful standard coupe"?!

At least mine is on the road gay boy! Where were you yesterday anyway?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Puz8tC5sXFw

Didn't make as much as expected, but still kept up with a Z4 M Coupe and CSL on the way home :)

BEN
21-10-2007, 04:08 PM
At least mine is on the road gay boy! Where were you yesterday anyway?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Puz8tC5sXFw

Didn't make as much as expected, but still kept up with a Z4 M Coupe and CSL on the way home :)

so is mine, she was out on wednesday for a bit and is going into the garage on thursday to be ripped apart a sorted!

i did come up i just made sure i was late enough to miss you!

im suprised you kept up with the CSL and Z4M seeing as you drive like miss daisy!

Chris
22-10-2007, 01:34 PM
Imran, what did the other S50 make in the end?

maahny
22-10-2007, 01:45 PM
Rigors car made 320 BHP. He has a Gruppe M intake (which we have tested and adds around 10 BHP) and MK Motorsport exhaust which are reputed to add 13 BHP. After seeing his figures I can believe it.

Chris
22-10-2007, 01:49 PM
Rigors car made 320 BHP. He has a Gruppe M intake (which we have tested and adds around 10 BHP) and MK Motorsport exhaust which are reputed to add 13 BHP. After seeing his figures I can believe it.

Bugger, so mine really is down on power at the moment!

Might need some help sorting it out!

maahny
22-10-2007, 02:10 PM
Its not down on power Chris. As I told you standard cars make anywhere between 270 and 290 BHP on our dyno.

Chris
22-10-2007, 02:23 PM
Its not down on power Chris. As I told you standard cars make anywhere between 270 and 290 BHP on our dyno.

Yeah i must admit it doesn't feel down on power, so thats a good sign!

So Rigors car made 30bhp more just with a cat back exhaust and Gruppe M? Mine has some kind of carbon induction kit already, so thats really impressive!

maahny
22-10-2007, 03:01 PM
I would expect his car was producing good power in the upper range that is normal on these cars before he modified it.

MGR
22-10-2007, 03:52 PM
my standard S54 made 324.3 bhp on a dyno dynamics RR a few months ago, (it was hot too ~ 30 deg) does that mean that an s54 is actaully not 4 bhp more but anything between 35-55 bhp up if you take 270-290 of a standard s50 ?

maahny
22-10-2007, 04:25 PM
Yes - we have had 4 S54 engined Z3M's on our Dyno Dynamics and they all make around 324 BHP. We have just this minute dyno'd the strongest standard S50 engined car so far - 313 BHP.

The S50's vary a lot.

Rigor
22-10-2007, 06:01 PM
Hello all,i was very surprised and happy of coarse with 320.5 bhp.The MK motorsport exhaust made a big difference when driving after i fitted them. I also had the car serviced two weeks ago.New oil,filters,plugs etc. Chris,buy these exhaust and you will be surprised with the result. Good day,i really enjoyed it.

///m murf
24-10-2007, 11:50 PM
Hi everyone
The shock of the day for me though was when I only turned up for a chat and a dianostic as the engine misfires around 1750-2500 rpm on part load from cold, ended up putting her on the rollers and making 321.4hp with just a K&N air filter/Exdos mod air box (S50,so not as important as an S54s poorly design air box pipework) and a Gpower exhaust well chuffed

exdos
25-10-2007, 11:44 AM
(S50,so not as important as an S54s poorly design air box pipework)

///m murf,

Why do you think the S54 air box pipework is poorly designed?

MGR
25-10-2007, 02:01 PM
///m murf,

Why do you think the S54 air box pipework is poorly designed?

glad you asked that as I was about to !

MGR
25-10-2007, 02:39 PM
Rigors car made 320 BHP. He has a Gruppe M intake (which we have tested and adds around 10 BHP) and MK Motorsport exhaust which are reputed to add 13 BHP. After seeing his figures I can believe it.

Will this be the same with an S54 ? i.e 'should' an 324 bhp S54 + Gruppe M + MK exhaust = 324+10+13 = 347 bhp ???

How repeatable were the results ?

maahny
25-10-2007, 03:16 PM
I have no idea and would not like to guess. I have heard that exhausts make a postive power difference on the Z3M S54 but we haven't tested any so can't comment on this. No one makes an aftermarket intake kit for this model as far as I'm aware.

We have tested some Z4M Coupes. Standard they are making around 320-325 BHP. One that we tested on rolling road day had a Gruppe M intake and aftermarket exhaust and made 343 BHP.

MGR
25-10-2007, 04:14 PM
I have no idea and would not like to guess. I have heard that exhausts make a postive power difference on the Z3M S54 but we haven't tested any so can't comment on this. No one makes an aftermarket intake kit for this model as far as I'm aware.

We have tested some Z4M Coupes. Standard they are making around 320-325 BHP. One that we tested on rolling road day had a Gruppe M intake and aftermarket exhaust and made 343 BHP.

Thanks for the info.

I wonder if the one that made 343 would have made that anyway - really need a before and after comparison on the same car I suppose.

Easy decision then if no one makes an aftermarket intake ! I don't think i'll be changing the exhaust as the aftermarket one I had on was too noisy for commuting (for my tastes) and ended up changing back to standard.

looks like it will be staying standard then !

///m murf
26-10-2007, 09:05 AM
///m murf,

Why do you think the S54 air box pipework is poorly designed?

Sorry for any confusion caused

I didnt mean any external pipework of the air box (high pressure area intake x2,pipe work to the plenum chamber)just the oval shaped part on the inside of the air box which is the part thats modded to aid the air flow through the filter, this seems a better design on S50s than on S54s as the oval part on the intake seems shorter, unless its the filtered/engine side trumpet thats shorter on the S50 as to not make the air do almost 180 degrees as it comes though the filter, I think I showed you my air box at Gaydon back in 2005 which I had modded from your photos on here when you were in the process of modding an air box on a silver S54 coupe, not your own! and we talked about the differences then about how the S54 airboxes seemed to be more of a badly designed route for the air to take before the Exdos mod.

Mark