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Old 20-03-2007, 12:46 PM
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Adding racelogic to an M Coupe is like

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Old 20-03-2007, 12:59 PM
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They would both leave you feeling slightly dissapointed that you didn't get the full raw experience :mrgreen:

I'd still say yes to one of them ;)
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Old 20-03-2007, 01:03 PM
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In the dry I'd agree, there's so much grip on the MC that it'll be off.

In the wet however I think your safer with your wellies on, you never know when you will have to deal a lesson to someone with DSC/ASC

Now do I fit the clutch switch for launch control? :mrgreen:
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Old 20-03-2007, 01:42 PM
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Adding racelogic to an M Coupe is like

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In the dry I'd agree, there's so much grip on the MC that it'll be off.

In the wet however I think your safer with your wellies on, you never know when you will have to deal a lesson to someone with DSC/ASC

Now do I fit the clutch switch for launch control? :mrgreen:
i turn the TC off everyday in the VRS and will do the same in the MC i hate TC its crap utter crap!
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Lee, this is nothing like ACS or DSC as far as I can work out, it lets you dial and modify degrees of slip from 0% to whatever. So allowing say 20% would give you as much tailslides as you'd want without the sudden 100% spin off into the scenery you might get in wet/ice without it. I would say it's not a million miles away from how Formula 1 traction control systems work by progressively cutting fuel and alternating the firing injector and fuel patterns giving a light misfire.

Having looked through the manual you can attach it to a laptop using pretty detailed software and even datalog as well (also the launch control which I must admit isn't someting that interests me that much).

In the dry I find the back is quite stable and grippy but in the wet [lateral] grip under slight acceleration reduces so much more than it should IMO.
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Adding racelogic to an M Coupe is like

shagging Seinna Miller with a condom :!:
In the dry I'd agree, there's so much grip on the MC that it'll be off.

In the wet however I think your safer with your wellies on, you never know when you will have to deal a lesson to someone with DSC/ASC

Now do I fit the clutch switch for launch control? :mrgreen:
i turn the TC off everyday in the VRS and will do the same in the MC i hate TC its crap utter crap!
I did with my old Z3, the standard ones are rubbish, and a FWD car doesn't need it anyway.

You're assuming it will just cut the power and slow you down; it won't, you're completely misunderstanding what this system is capable of :-P
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Adding racelogic to an M Coupe is like

shagging Seinna Miller with a condom :!:
In the dry I'd agree, there's so much grip on the MC that it'll be off.

In the wet however I think your safer with your wellies on, you never know when you will have to deal a lesson to someone with DSC/ASC

Now do I fit the clutch switch for launch control? :mrgreen:
i turn the TC off everyday in the VRS and will do the same in the MC i hate TC its crap utter crap!
I did with my old Z3, the standard ones are rubbish, and a FWD car doesn't need it anyway.

You're assuming it will just cut the power and slow you down; it won't, you're completely misunderstanding what this system is capable of :-P
I don't think anyone is denying that it is a far superior system to the standard DSC, and quite possibly could make you drive faster and safer in the wet. What myself and a few others are saying, as that on an MC it takes you a step back from the raw driving experience and thats not what most of us want. :twisted:
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I don't think anyone is denying that it is a far superior system to the standard DSC, and quite possibly could make you drive faster and safer in the wet. What myself and a few others are saying, as that on an MC it takes you a step back from the raw driving experience and thats not what most of us want. :twisted:
Ben said they're all "utter crap" :-P

I know what you're trying to say but the system doesn't interfere if you don't want it too so it doesn't make it less "raw" (if your definition of raw you only mean having a lack of traction control??), you could switch it off altogether, or set it up how your like or have just have it on in the wet for more stability when pressing on.
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Adding racelogic to an M Coupe is like

shagging Seinna Miller with a condom :!:
In the dry I'd agree, there's so much grip on the MC that it'll be off.

In the wet however I think your safer with your wellies on, you never know when you will have to deal a lesson to someone with DSC/ASC

Now do I fit the clutch switch for launch control? :mrgreen:
i turn the TC off everyday in the VRS and will do the same in the MC i hate TC its crap utter crap!
I did with my old Z3, the standard ones are rubbish, and a FWD car doesn't need it anyway.

You're assuming it will just cut the power and slow you down; it won't, you're completely misunderstanding what this system is capable of :-P
Someone posted on here last week that they have had the racelogic and now have the DSC and said he felt the DSC is better?

surely BMW have the shit together in the art of keeping fools on the road :twisted: ;)
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I don't think anyone is denying that it is a far superior system to the standard DSC, and quite possibly could make you drive faster and safer in the wet. What myself and a few others are saying, as that on an MC it takes you a step back from the raw driving experience and thats not what most of us want. :twisted:
Ben said they'all "utter crap" :-P

I know what you're trying to say but the system doesn't interfere if you don't want it too so it doesn't make it less "raw" (if your definition of raw you only mean lack of traction control??), you could switch it off altogether, or set it up how your like or have just have it on in the wet for more stability when pressing on.
Ok, ignore Ben then ;)

By raw i mean that you are in complete control of every aspect of driving, and the simple fact is that with TC you are not, regardless of how little it interferes, or appears to interfere.

I can't comment on racelogic as have never driven with it, but i already know its not for me 8-)
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