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  • #31
    Rose tinted ?

    Well I sold my z3m about a year ago because of running cost issues with such crazy warranty costs and since I was too cheap to renew the warranty I was convinced that this would mean another Vanos issue. It was also nowhere near as fast as the quoted figures or as well balanced.

    For me the z3M was about being different but the M performance and reliability was not what it should have been.

    I'm getting my z4M in mid June and after having driven one, the performance, balance and handling are far far better. A trip to the Nurburgring last September told it's own story when I noticed the tuition cars are all z4ms.

    Sure the prices are there to negotiate - I got about 15% off list - but most cars these days will take a hammering so might as well lose money on an interesting car !!

    Anyway I don't miss the z3m now that the modern alternative is on the way. Sometimes people just are a little rose tinted. I mean have a look all the various technical issues that z3m owners have on this forum. Still doen't stop most from coveting their car but it really should. The vanos issues, service costs, warranty costs etc etc should tell you that build quality and reliability are very poor for such a valuable car.

    I really hope my new car doesn't give any of the issues that the old one did and i expect that since BMW have been building the s54 engine for 7 years now, they have resolved any major issues.

    We'll see.

    Definately getting some BBS CH or similar though because the new wheels are very ordinary and let the car down !
    Ex-z3mc Estoril
    Ex-Z4MC - carbon black
    Now - z3mc silver, minted

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    • #32
      i do like the look of the z4m and will be trading up in two years time, ideally will be a steel grey with red interior and sat nav. i will find hard to part with the z3m, since it was the only car i have wanted since i could drive, but it will be 10 years old by then and i think it will be dated, but my dad said he will buy it and stick it in the garage with the rest of his collection so i can hopefully drive it from time to time.
      what do people think they will be going for in two years time if they are around 23k-25k then i think they will be a cracking buy.

      chris

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      • #33
        Originally posted by outrun View Post
        Anyway I don't miss the z3m now that the modern alternative is on the way. Sometimes people just are a little rose tinted. I mean have a look all the various technical issues that z3m owners have on this forum. Still doen't stop most from coveting their car but it really should. The vanos issues, service costs, warranty costs etc etc should tell you that build quality and reliability are very poor for such a valuable car.


        Definately getting some BBS CH or similar though because the new wheels are very ordinary and let the car down !
        I think its enthusiasm more than anything else, i havnt come across many major cost issues except Flying Saucers Engine, most have been cheap fixes that we tend to want to do ourselves rather than take to the Garage.


        I like the Z4M Coupe, shame they didnt just make the Coupe in M format.

        I'm sure you'll love yours, I must say If I buy one, i'll go for white
        looking

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        • #34
          ' A trip to the Nurburgring last September told it's own story when I noticed the tuition cars are all z4ms. '

          Is this not just marketing by BMW? - What other model can they use currently?

          The Z4M may be a great car, but don't slate the Z3M just cos you've moved on. I've had my Z3M for nearly 7 years and have had no major problems with it.

          Think I'll need to test drive the Z4M, see if it gives the same 'driver feedback' as the Z3M...

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          • #35
            Originally posted by outrun View Post
            Well I sold my z3m about a year ago because of running cost issues with such crazy warranty costs and since I was too cheap to renew the warranty I was convinced that this would mean another Vanos issue. It was also nowhere near as fast as the quoted figures or as well balanced.

            For me the z3M was about being different but the M performance and reliability was not what it should have been.

            Anyway I don't miss the z3m now that the modern alternative is on the way. Sometimes people just are a little rose tinted. I mean have a look all the various technical issues that z3m owners have on this forum. Still doen't stop most from coveting their car but it really should. The vanos issues, service costs, warranty costs etc etc should tell you that build quality and reliability are very poor for such a valuable car.

            I really hope my new car doesn't give any of the issues that the old one did and i expect that since BMW have been building the s54 engine for 7 years now, they have resolved any major issues.

            We'll see.

            Definately getting some BBS CH or similar though because the new wheels are very ordinary and let the car down !
            I agree about the handling as standard but I think you miss the point regards reliability, if you bought any near-10 year old car it might need some maintenance let alone a specialist car and some of the earlier Z3Ms are nearly 10 years old now.

            Looking on the technical section there isn't a great deal of major issues that I can see, apart from the often misunderstood VANOS issue and loose seats! I'm sure any other car forum is the same, if the online community is small for a certain car (which Z4Ms will be, mainly because they're under warranty) then the technical issues will appear small (not to mention they are new cars)

            I feel the problem is that those who feel they have to pay the waranty price look at this as a running cost, and when you have a warranty a BMW dealer WILL look for any slight faults that might or might not be there and be all too willing to spend £££ on it - they get paid for it - scaring you in the process if you hadn't had it.
            Last edited by c_w; 17-05-2007, 05:29 PM.

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            • #36
              Just followed and overtook a Z4 coupe this pm. There is no real comparison with the Z3MC - if your considering a Z4 you might as well have a 3 series with the extra seats.

              Z3MC is awsum, end of.
              S54 Titan Silver metallic. Black leather, most factory options including sunroof, Becker Cascade and Becker Silverstone changer.

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              • #37
                Z4M coupe is uninspiring and has no passion about it.

                I intend to keep my coupe for ever, similar to my Toyota Supra TT which I bought from new in 1993. I think they will be future classics and I have the Garage space.

                I would like to buy TVR sagaris in a couple of years when the prices come down and keep that rather than the Z4M

                People do harp on about the running costs of the Z3mcoupe, maintenance but in reality if you want to be scottish about things buy a Toyota Corolla and a purse.
                Z3M Estoril blue s50 ...

                Also have Toyota Supra Twin Turbo Mk IV UK Car

                Previously Z3M s50 coupe silver black leather, HIDS, schnitzer pedals, cruise control....2 replacement engines, vanos exploded and engine flooded and written off...

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by outrun View Post
                  Well I sold my z3m about a year ago because of running cost issues with such crazy warranty costs and since I was too cheap to renew the warranty I was convinced that this would mean another Vanos issue. It was also nowhere near as fast as the quoted figures or as well balanced.

                  For me the z3M was about being different but the M performance and reliability was not what it should have been.

                  I'm getting my z4M in mid June and after having driven one, the performance, balance and handling are far far better. A trip to the Nurburgring last September told it's own story when I noticed the tuition cars are all z4ms.

                  Sure the prices are there to negotiate - I got about 15% off list - but most cars these days will take a hammering so might as well lose money on an interesting car !!

                  Anyway I don't miss the z3m now that the modern alternative is on the way. Sometimes people just are a little rose tinted. I mean have a look all the various technical issues that z3m owners have on this forum. Still doen't stop most from coveting their car but it really should. The vanos issues, service costs, warranty costs etc etc should tell you that build quality and reliability are very poor for such a valuable car.

                  I really hope my new car doesn't give any of the issues that the old one did and i expect that since BMW have been building the s54 engine for 7 years now, they have resolved any major issues.

                  We'll see.

                  Definately getting some BBS CH or similar though because the new wheels are very ordinary and let the car down !
                  You haven't specified any 'running cost issues'.

                  'with such crazy warranty costs and since I was too cheap to renew the warranty I was convinced that this would mean another Vanos issue'
                  Sorry but this doesn't make sense. You were not prepared to pay for warranty renewal and therefore assumed that the Vanos would fail???

                  'It was also nowhere near as fast as the quoted figures' - rubbish, as virtually every owner will testify.

                  'the M performance and reliability was not what it should have been'.
                  again, absolute rubbish - the performance is what BMW said it would be. In fact, some magazine tests said the performance was better than the official figures.
                  Reliability - what went wrong with your car exactly?

                  'A trip to the Nurburgring last September told it's own story when I noticed the tuition cars are all z4ms' - sonu_anand has covered this point very well. I find it difficult to believe that someone can honestly believe that a small fleet purchase for instructors denotes a guarantee of performance. And as it's a relatively new car, they can't possibly know how reliable it will be over a period of time.
                  What it MAY show is that BMW have a special relationship with the Nurburgring and virtually gave the cars away for promotional/advertising purposes.

                  'I got about 15% off list'
                  You were robbed - see other posts on current discounts.

                  'but most cars these days will take a hammering so might as well lose money on an interesting car !!'
                  Pity you didn't buy one.

                  'I mean have a look all the various technical issues that z3m owners have on this forum'
                  Most owners, over time have niggles with any car. On this forum, they are aired for discussion, and you should have noticed that straightforward solutions have been found for the vast majority.

                  'I really hope my new car doesn't give any of the issues that the old one did

                  We'll see.'
                  You said it.
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                  • #39
                    Well said Coupe Fan!!!

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